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Naughty Dog Responds to Uncharted Criticism from Deus Ex Creator

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Naughty Dog has responded to criticism from Deus Ex creator Warren Spector that its Uncharted series fails to make the most of the opportunities provided by the video game medium.

The developer’s community strategist, Arne Meyer, was asked for a response to Spector’s comments earlier in the week that Uncharted was a ‘low expression’ game during a Q&A panel at PAX Australia 2015, and he duly obliged.

“We are always really glad for feedback – from everywhere,” Meyer said, adding that Spector had come by the studio during work on both Uncharted and The Last of Us and offered his advice.

Rather than replying directly to the veteran designer’s criticism of Uncharted, in which he suggested the series failed to provide players with enough choice and freedom, Meyer chose to apply Spector’s comments to the industry as a whole, conceding that all developers could do more with their games:

“Right now, in the industry, we have such an great opportunity to create many different games, from blockbuster triple-A studios to indie studios, to address every type of play style and every type of ‘want’ that you could want in a game.

“It’s great that you’re hearing this type of criticism towards all sorts of games, because people are starting to make games that let you explore all sorts of different genres.

“I think people are really starting to think about those things – about what more could games do – because there are all these games out there that are appealing to different genres and play styles, and I think that’s what’s really special about the industry right now.”

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  • Kamille

    that’s hardly a response.

  • bigshynepo

    Spector says regarding Uncharted:

    “It’s not that games like this are bad, but they limit your ability to interact with the game world, so the story can unfold the way the storyteller wants it to unfold.”

    “You have very limited ability to express yourself; it’s about how do you accomplish a predetermined path to get to the next plot point.”
    “It’s a great story – a better story than I’ll ever tell in a game – but it’s not a player story; it’s not your story.”
    —————————————————

    I think he was speaking truthfully and objectively, ND knows that and crafted a perfectly professional response. Uncharted is great, but a truly open world Uncharted, with proper story pacing, might be amazing.

    • vishmarx

      with all due respect,
      F*** open world.
      not every damn game needs to turn into a checklist of boring fetch quests.
      linear tight experiences are great and need to be what are.
      open world will always come at the ost of repetitive mission variety, pooper pacing and lesser character development and weaker set pieces. all of uncharted heavily relies on to be that good.
      everyone praises witcher but even its characters and story falls so very short witcher 2.
      same goes for mgs.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        what? i think you didn’t understand the meaning of freedom.
        nowadays open world games when it’s story driving is still a linear game, because all you do is follow the script and to make it “open world” devs sprinkles side quest here and there.

        Freedom to the players in my point of view is like Resident Evil for example they give you the (start = prologue, middle = freedom do whatever you need to do in order to progress and End = final Cut scene and roll the credits)

        now games are just START and ENDING, Point A to Point B + Cutscene inside the gameplay and just a little bit of true gameplay even if they break the gameplay in half to put cut scene and to tell the truth more and more Devs are putting gameplay forced only to distinguish games with movies, so all of you say “well it’s a game” just because they put a little of gameplay to make this seperated line between games and movies even though games already are Movies, gamers have lost they knowledge of this amazing hobby.

        below you see the example

      • Shubhendu Singh

        I don’t agree you on Witcher3, they did open world pretty well. Everything else I do agree, especially MGSV.

      • bigshynepo

        Good thing I said ‘Might be amazing’.
        If you have ever played Kings Quest 5, that is a simple vision I have for Uncharted. A vast world, which you may visit a place more than once, which is driven by a linear story. Not ‘Open World’ but way less linear than it’s current state.

        I’ve heard many people say this new Witcher is the best one yet, but MGSV had more problems than just being open world – I think we can all agree on that.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Not every game should be designed so that you have some crazy amount of interaction with the world. That’s the problem I have with Spector’s comment.

      I don’t always want to play a game where I can do whatever I want and craft my own story. In fact, rarely am I in the mood for such a game. As a writer and avid reader, I know one of the best ways to immerse someone into a world isn’t to give them every little detail about a world. No, the BEST way us to pull someone into specific moments. Like Uncharted’s setpieces: we get drawn into them because they’re so iconic, because they have such an impact on us.

      You couldn’t tell the tales of Nathan Drake if you let players go wherever they wanted to in the world and interact with whatever and whomever.

      To criticize people for structuring their games so that gamers can enjoy the specific story and experiences you’ve come up with is… senseless.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        it is a Fking Video GAME, what’s so HARD to UNDERSTAND?

        • J.j. Barrington

          Your delusions are about the only things that are difficult to grasp.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            typical fanboy response
            everybody that attack their favorite group are delusionals

            it is confirmed You don’t know what VIDEOGAME is

      • bigshynepo

        Well put!

  • Solid Snake

    Except i’d rather play any Uncharted game over the borefest Dues ex…

    • Gamez Rule

      100% agree,

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      probably because you sucks playing the original Deus Ex, so you would like to play a dumbed down casualized game

      • drjonesjnr

        Nah most people like me who played deus ex thought it was crap after the terribly bad ending.
        Remember the choice at the end?
        Yea doesn’t matter because the devs are going with the ending they liked for number 2
        So anyone who made the other two choices has been disregarded.
        Uncharted 2-3-tlou are 9/10 the last deus ex games are a 7/10 at best.
        Gtf

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          you still talking about story this is a proof how burned your brain is
          Games are not Movies, Games should not mimic Movies what’s so hard to understand?
          Devs are forced to include gameplay because they need to make it different than movies

          Uncharted and Tlous are 9/10 all the reviewers praises Voice Acting, Storytelling and not gameplay
          Gaming is nomore for gamers, heck you guys still don’t understand what Warren tried to say
          ND kinda agreed with him
          and stop with the f scores and reviews Opinions are not fact
          and what Warren said isn’t an Opinion he stated a Fact
          so you’re trying to talk with Opinions? when a guy stated a fact?

          • David C

            If they didn’t praise the gameplay they wouldn’t score so high.

            If a videogame wishes to funnel a player along a path to provide an experience that allows a controlled freedom, so be it. Providing it utilizes the medium of choice to a good standard I don’t see a problem.

            I’ve had more enjoyment playing The Uncharted games than any other, yet I don’t wish every game to be the same. I put many an hour into fallout too. Player agency is all well and good but it still needs a compelling reason to exist.

            Slating a game for it’s choice of focus is pointless if it excells at the end result. Sometimes you just have to say, hey I aint into this.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            believe me out there you can find a game having a high score just for voice actors

          • Scott Russell

            God I’ve read far too many of these comments. I now feel as though I could quite easily quit video game writing to become a man who melts down traffic cones for a living.

          • drjonesjnr

            The last of us/uncharted -2-3 have great gameplay go and check the hundreds of reviews out there,they are just married with great story telling to.
            Deux ex failed in both counts
            Ok gameplay terrible story.
            Especially that ending wow its bad.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            again how many time i should say the same thing?
            Opinion are not facts, and even a kid can write a review do you know in gaming jouralism if a company pays them they will say everything good?
            look at the last year AC game, did they mention bug, glitches and uncomplete game? i don’t thing they mention it
            so why should I trust reviewers? when they keep lying?
            ME as a Gamer i know what is great and what’s not
            probably you’re defending the Last of US and Uncharted because People said it is good
            Uncharted ACTUALLY IS dumbed down but for “Gamers” it has a great gameplay, the climbing meccanic is easy but for “Gamers” it was great, i realise a game to be called Masterpiece MUST insult their inteligence

          • drjonesjnr

            Thats just you’re opinion though and I totally disagree

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            well you can disagree with me, but doesn’t change the facts if someone pays them to say good thing they will do it and it will not change the facts that Uncharted is actually dumbed down

          • drjonesjnr

            Again like you said to me thats just you’re opinion and not fact.
            If I was you mate I would buy a tin foil hat

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            tell me why it is an opinion, when clearly the game is dumbed down

          • drjonesjnr

            Not clearly, thats you’re opinion, what comes out of you’re mouth isn’t fact mate its just the way things are.
            You have 1 developer backing up you’re argument
            Ive got 100s of websites and publications on my side.
            Take a look at metacritic for instance.
            So if you have nothing else to ad or back you’re opinion up there’s nothing more to say 🙂

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            how the f can be an opinion when you can see it?
            open your eyes please it is there in front of your eyes, but you prefeer to not see it right?

            somebody may like a dumbed down gameplay (reviewers) because their gaming knowledge is 0, i know a game can give you more but thanks to Reviewers, Modern gamers and Fanboys we can’t have it
            because if a game is more like the old ones they will bash it because lil Jimmy can beat the game

            Metacritic means nothing, and what i’m saying is there on your screen

          • drjonesjnr

            Again thats just you’re opinion.
            The majority of gamers disagree with you 🙂
            I bet you’re an xbox fan or something….

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            the mojority of gamers? who? the ones that joined gaming in the last gen?
            they can disagree, because they don’t know what gaming used to be
            and here fresh news http://mmos.com/editorials/otherland-has-hundreds-of-fake-paid-reviews-on-steam so this can happend to “Professional Gaming Rewievers too”
            i own only a PS4 for this gen, so this doesn’t make me a Fanboy
            it makes me a honest gamer with knowledge about gameplay and gamedesign something that you and your gamers lack of

          • drjonesjnr

            Uncharted is a class game Imo
            In you’re opinion its crap yet you have nothing to back that statement up apart for a has been game developer getting salty.
            People like different games than you that doesn’t make them casual,rather they have different tastes

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            now this is an opinion, but i’m not saying Uncharted is crap
            i’m just saying they could do more to make the game better
            they could make a greater experience if they wanted to, but they can’t because they need to get new commers to buy their games, and if they give them no handholding they could fail because nobody would buy Uncharted
            so in order to get sales they need to dumb down their games and they need to include handholding
            tell me why back in the days gaming was a niche hobby? because games actually challenge the gamer without handholding him
            now gaming is bigger than Movie and music combined and i noticed because people want a easier experience and they wanted to be handholded that’s why we begin to saw Regenhealth, Dumbed down gameplay, checkpoints, cinematic

          • XPERIA

            Hahaha…
            So, what people say is OPINION but whatever you say is FACT?! Get outta here!

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            i would like to know where i stated an opinion, because Modern gaming in general actually is dumbed down because they are making games for new commers the ones that never played before and are not ready for a challenging gameplay without being handholded
            do you know why modern games have handholding? because they need to please the ones that never played before and it seems this tactis is working just watching your comments you guys didn’t noticed dumbed down gameplay and didn’t noticed handholding that’s because some of you never played before so you guys have the illusion to say gaming is not dumbed down because you can’t see the difference compared to the old days of gaming. Now i don’t want to hear my first gaming experience was the Atari 2600 because 99% of people respond to me with the classic “been gaming since the Atari” only to make them look like credible

            does Uncharted have handholding? YES
            does Uncharted has dumbed down gameplay? hmmm…. YES
            so where’s the opinion? when you can clearly (if you been gaming for a long time) can notice it
            the same goes to the Last of Us
            where you have Ellie that defend you when a Survival game you should be Alone without partners holding your hands and sometimes the A.I is dumb, it has the Listen Mode which increase the Handholding is this an Opinion or you can find it in the game?

            talking with you guys is like telling a blind to watch

          • Scott Russell

            I get paid all the time to give high scores to games. They come at me with a stack of large hams and I take them into my room and smoke some fat nugs while eating my ham over a tiny stovepipe.

          • albatrosMyster

            How stating that there is notre enough choice on whatever game is a fact? How is saying more choices is always better a fact? Not that the uncharted games could not be open, but it would not necessarily make them better, in fact you could find some people to complain they don’t know where to go or whatever…

            Anyway, in a vacuum saying more choices in games makes them better seems shortsighted, the most open games released recently as well as far in the past are far from the best (some people like them, but not everyone has an open world character building game at the top of their favorite games ofball time)…. Now to go with you gameplay insinuations, these are just gibberish, a game is a whole, gameplay and interactions are the main part of it, and each uncharted games does well, TLOU even better…

            Anyway, you make no sense

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            i make no sense because you’re blinded

            Deus Ex for example isn’t a open world game like Farcry
            Deus Ex it gives you a open area level 2 different things

            Warren isn’t talking about Linear and open world

      • kreator

        lol

    • Shubhendu Singh

      I absolutely love Deus Ex Games. I wouldn’t be able to choose between UC or DX even if you point a gun to my head.

      • TraceSkipper

        I thought Deus Ex is a bit better than the Uncharted series.

    • MACDUFF

      Obviously cause deus ex is for real gamers not fagggy uncharted such a chore to play

      • Tha-Truth

        Deus Ex is a game for mongoloid little spastics like you who don’t have the brains to appreciate good storytelling. Last – gen trash like Deus Ex isn’t worth a damn to anyone with a sense of self – respect, it’s only casual, non – gaming trash that play games like those.

        Real gamers…LOL. Only braindamaged, low – IQ paupers would consider the storytelling in the trash Deus Ex games to be acceptable.

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          well i have a brain to appreciate good storytelling in fact that’s why i watch Movies
          and i think you’re confused with Casual

          • drjonesjnr

            Nah hes right the story in deus ex is pants especially the ending wow
            It made mass effect 3 ending look like a masterpiece

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            story, story, story, story and story
            but nobody is talking about GAMEPLAY the main key for a video game

          • drjonesjnr

            And no reviews say uncharted or the last of us have bad gameplay.
            So again its just you’re opinion.
            Deus ex had very stiff stilted gameplay it you ask me.
            And the whole selling point of the game was the story and unfortunately that part of the game was terrible

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            just compare Uncharted with the classic Tomb Raider ffs
            which one of the 2 is challenging?, which one of the 2 doesn’t hold your hands? which one of the 2 has a great gameplay?
            because as far i can remember Tomb Raider (the classics) are more open than Uncharted

            Reviewers are just a bunch of clowns, i can’t trust them after the ACUnity fiasco and every high scores they give to Call of Duty

          • drjonesjnr

            Play uncharted on hardcore and come back to me

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            play Natural Doctrine on easy mode and come back to me
            oh wait you don’t know what game it is right? you need google to tell you what game is
            i bet you didn’t know what game is Natural Doctrine because you buy only what’s hyped and what’s trendy
            this is what makes you a gamer right?
            ZERO knowledge of games makes you a gamer right?

          • drjonesjnr

            See you keep trying to pass you’re opinion off as fact.
            Its not sorry 🙂

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            no, i’m seeing you’re avoiding what i said

          • drjonesjnr

            Not at all just totally disagree with you I found the uncharted collection much harder Than the witcher 3
            And only played on normal.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            what has this to do with the Witcher?
            Natural Doctrine isn’t the Witcher
            the Witcher 3 is dumbed down too
            so you’re comparing 2 dumbed down games, great for you
            but i’m actually saying a very difficult game even on easy mode
            you said play Uncharted Hardcore mode (just like everybody that started playing last gen will say), and i told you play Natural Doctrine in EASY mode and i can assure you gamers that started last gen will never said that, because they don’t buy difficult games and they need to be handholded that’s why they feel tough by saying play Uncharted on hardcore mode which the game still have handholding the only difference is the enemies will hit you harder
            with Natural Doctrine the game difficulty will change the gameplay experience it makes you think more
            with Uncharted on Hardcore mode you can still hide behind a wall
            with Natural Doctrine it requires more Strategy in order to succeed this is something that Hardcore mode in Uncharted lack they just change the damage that’s it
            i bet with Natural Doctrine you will complain because you can’t beat the game even one easy mode
            Playing on Hardcore mode doesn’t change the gameplay because it is the gameplay that is dumbed down in order to get people attention even people that never played before will be interested on playing Uncharted

            EDIT: for you Uncharted was difficult? this proved you never played a challenging game before or you started playing last gen

          • drjonesjnr

            I beat bloodborne,demon souls. Dark soul 1and 2.
            You’re talking utter nonsense mate a game I find easy you might find hard and vice versa.
            At the end of the day everything you just said is you’re opinion thats it nothing more.
            I disagree my opinion is different.
            Who would of thought people have different opinions huh? Amazing

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            you can’t say souls are too difficult lol Souls games if these games was released back in PS1 or PS2 it would be mediocre at best
            it doesn’t mean i don’t like Souls and Bloodborne, but it seems you’re trying everything to sound like some badazz while i just gave you 1 game that will destroy you even on Easy difficulty
            you gave me Uncharted Hardcore mode, then you gave me the Witcher on top of that you gave me another games
            i’m Here telling you Play Natural Doctrine on Easy mode (EASY MODE) and then we can talk and i noticed you’re not answering me faster like you did before, maybe because you’re without any ammo left?
            1 game in Easy mode that’s it
            well i find Uncharted Hardcore easy, i find Souls games easy too (when you learn the enemies paterns), the witcher 3 is utter easy
            it seems you have problem playing videogames, you find dumbed down games with handholding too difficult this shows me your gaming experience and why you don’t underdstand what i’m trying to say
            because your gaming experience started with the last gen so you don’t know what Dumbed Down is
            you’re saying opinions, opinions and opinions because you’re trying to avoid my points
            which i can assure you if ND were honest they would admit what i’m saying that Uncharted and TLOU have dumbed down gameplay and on top of that they include Handholding
            this is the Modern Market
            Challenge + no Handholding = no Buy
            Dumbed down + no challenge + handholding = Sell like hotcakes
            and numbers don’t lie

          • drjonesjnr

            Nah reality is good games sell look at gta5 as a perfect example.
            Some games are easier than other yes.
            Does that make them bad dumbed down games no!
            Ive also been playing games since the ps1 and it was just the same back then just much less quality

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            lol good games look at GTA5?
            GTA5 sell because it is HYPED and not because it is good
            i remember people where complaining about the multiplayer on PS3/360
            now that it has a few extra P suddenly the game become great?

            i learned something thank to you
            a game can be masterpiece only when I start hyping it and adding a few extra P to be a GAME OF THE YEAR

            i don’t think you know what DUmbed down really means
            and i think you were younger when you played on PS1 to remember

          • drjonesjnr

            If you think gta is a bad game I feel sorry for you because nothing comes close in my opinion.
            You keep playing you’re nichie games and think that makes you better Than all other gamers LMFAO
            Pathetic

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            even some Niche games are dumbed down, what the heck are you talking about?
            based on your logic GTA, AC, BF and COD are the best games ever made because they sell Millions of copies right?
            Quantity doesn’t mean Quality

    • Dirkster_Dude

      Well I would rather play Uncharted or Dues Ex than Metal Gear Solid which is a true borefest to me. Of course for me to play Uncharted I would need a PS4 this time around and I don’t have 1 of those. Oh well.

  • TwinspectreGaming101

    ND knows that Warren is Right, ND is like any other modern Triple A developers
    gaming now is beautiful because all type of games and in the reality all i see is the same Dumbed down casual story over gameplay games.
    Only Indies are bringing games and most of people attack indies games.
    the irony when someone attack your beloved Story over gameplay all you do is get MAD, and when someone makes gameplay over everything you attack them WTF

    when did gamers become movie fanatics and play only for the story???? am i in a parallel world?

    • vishmarx

      are you retarded or just as a kite?

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        let’s insult people because he has a different Point of View and because he’s attacking the Naughty GODS

      • Scott Russell

        Now now, don’t bring kites into this. Kites are a fun pastime with no notion of video games or disputes.

    • J.j. Barrington

      Do you really believe anything you’re typing?

      I surely hope not.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        what i said is the truth and NaughtyGods kinda agreed with him

        • J.j. Barrington

          Uh, no. They took the classy route by saying that gaming can still grow. That much is true. Beyond that, though… Spector is wrong to think, assume, or believe that all genres and all games should hand over full control to gamers.

          And we both know you’re only agreeing with him for the sake of trolling people in here.

          Feel free to respond, but if your further responses to me are ignorant BS, you’d be wasting your time.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            ND uses the same excuses that everybody uses “Gaming has space for everything so we continue to make Story driving experience”
            and btw i don’t believe in fairy tails and trolls so stop Reading or Writing Fairytails is time to grow up and start living in the real world where Trolls doesn’t exist
            and I’m the one that says BS? right?
            Gaming has space for everything why they should limit gamers experience? when clearly what you said before was kissing ND a**
            “I don’t always want to play a game where I can do whatever I want and craft my own story. ” this is pure DAMAGE CONTROL

            so you’re telling me you’re a brainless bot? you want to follow order like a bot and it seems you’re a Bot look what you said
            Again for You VIdeogames it seems a difficult concept to understand

            and it seems you don’t want to have a proper discussion just looking at your response

            if you want an gaming experience i advice you to buy Half Life 1 and SO you will understand the concept of story telling in a videogame no need to go on youtube because you will not get the same experience

    • AngelsandDemons1

      Still hung over, huh?

    • Scott Russell

      Tell me more about your superior intellect.

  • TwinspectreGaming101

    basically ND has confirmed what Warren Said

    • Michael

      That’s exactly what happened. People are just offended because he mentioned the developer that people think can do no wrong.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        actually people don’t realise thank to Warren’s critic ND can improve their games

        • Jon

          It’s because this generation seems to have forgotten about the phrase “Constructive Criticism”.

          Most complaints should be a lesson to help someone learn and improve. However, nowadays complaints are a reason to jump on the bandwagon for your chosen side.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            and that’s Sad

  • jmmy

    But what did Warren make in the last 15 years? Did he notice that Uncharted is the most popular game on playstation.
    Just a stupid narcissist that pretends he is the almighty expert.
    Deus ex was new for its time but have been passed in every sense since then.
    Anyone else just played it at that time and have fond memories. Nice systems but alot of games are above that standard today. And cinematic games is supposed to be more linear and is popular exactly because of that.

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      i will explain why Uncharted and co. are popular nowadays.

      gaming nowdays is bigger than Movies and Music combined so more people join this hobby and by more people i mean Id*ots, dude bros etc.

      popularity doesn’t mean masterpiece it means that people will buy what’s hyped and not what they really like because they lack of knowledge.
      and with your post i assume you are one of them,
      basic on your logic games like Call of Duty, Fifa, Madden are the best game ever made because of it’s popularity?

      i see that more indies and Niche games are way more superior than the most “popular” game and nobody gives a damn about because it’s not hyped.

      Warren did revolutionized this industry and nd DON’T everything ND did was mimic movies and this isn’t inovation, IMO the best ND are the ones of PSX and PS2 when they DID games instead of movie wannabe.

      did you noticed that ND have confirmed what Warren said?

      • stixxx

        Not a smart comment. Uncharted 1 wasn’t hugely popular. The hype machine was not behind it. On top of that, the marketing department at sony was not only terrible (remember the “this is living” campaign) that time, but pretty much in existent. Word of mouth carried uncharted forward not popularity and casuals. Btw the wii was the one taking in the casual hype train money. You have probably played one uncharted game for 2 mins at most and are just a hater spewing nonsense and drivle just because.

        • vishmarx

          its hilarious to see the ‘uncharted/tlou players are movie loving casuals’ comments when it arguably has better multiplayer than most games these days.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            oh yeah because Regenhealth is for the HARDCORE right?

          • vishmarx

            way to fail airhead.
            tlou for that matter is one of the few mp shooters that does NOT have regen health.
            do you have a mental disability by any chance?
            and are you implying anything less than hardcore isnt even a game?

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            try to play Socom for PS2 and you’ll know what i mean
            try to play an Arena Shooter and you’ll realise what i mean
            the LAst of Us is DUMBED DOWN so they can match your inteligence

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          i’ve beat U1,2 and 3 + Tlous if i didn’t played these games it would be stupid talking without knowing the game
          and i found the classics Tomb Raider to be superior in term of gameplay compared to the all mighty Uncharted made for the “HARDCORE”

      • Blahblahfish

        Its nice to see educated responses no hype fanboy garbage or pubescent rants thanks again, you said it best when discussing the faults of the industry, defining gamers not by what games are trending but what someone wants to play (those might be gamers right, before it was cool say it as such).

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          thank you 🙂

      • Stephen Legerton

        You are just trying to sound smart by hating on a popular game.

        It’s pathetic, failing to see a great game for what it is in a desperate attempt to look cool.

        You are not better than anyone else no matter how hard you try by hating on Uncharted.

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          i don’t hate all popular game, i hate the ones that ARE dumbed down because in my eyes a Dumbed down game shouldn’t be praised because they insult gamers inteligence

          • Stephen Legerton

            They are just fun to play though, surely THAT is more important then anything else.

            It’s like with movies, a movie doesn’t have to be a serious piece of cinema to be enjoyed.

            The fact you think people are dumb for playing Uncharted is the wrong attitude to have.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            so for me having fun i should allow them to insult me? is this what are you trying to say?
            so, i need to go on Naughty Dogs twitter account and i need to tell them Insult me because i want to have fun

            with Dumbed down i mean look what TOmbRaider did in 1996 a mecchanic that Modern Gamer hate, climbing mecchanic Uncharted just mimic Assassin’s Creed climbing mecchanic “Uncharted = INNOVATOR”
            let’s face it most of todays gamers don’t want to be challenged they want to be handholded all the time and they want a cinematic experience

            they don’t Videogames just based on what they are saying attacking a man that revolutionize an industry a man that is trying to say what we have today are heavily focused on story and gameplay can go F itself

  • Miles Bader

    The original complaint was pretty silly, and lowers my opinion of Warren.

    It’s like going to somebody who’s made a beautiful sumi-e and complaining “How could you not use colors and thick layers of oil paint?!?”

    Uncharted is really fun. The fact that it’s fun in a different way that some other games doesn’t matter; the fact that it doesn’t do every possible thing that could be done doesn’t matter. There’s room for all sorts of game designs. What matters is that the players are happy with the result—and players of Uncharted very clearly are.

  • hvd hvd

    look at all this fanboy hate when some one speaks their mind about their precious game…lol

    • vishmarx

      everything you say is stupid.
      (dont hate on me and be a hypocrite, its just my opinion)

      • hvd hvd

        now i know im right…lol

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          actually YOU’RE RIGHT lol

          • hvd hvd

            yep but all fanboys are like thet tho xbx and pc bugt the ps4 fanboys are the worse as you said they make no sense at all…lol

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            well i hate Fanboys in general
            because fanboys when they can’t be right they keep insulting people
            calling them Retards

  • Audiojet

    Not really a fan of Warren Spector’s work so the comment doesn’t go very far. And if you look at what he has done in the last 10 years it makes sense that this comment came from him. It always comes from sour developers that hold dear to new ideas in games but don’t profit as much as the game(s) they are complaining about. Two words….Mickey Mouse.

  • drjonesjnr

    Warren wants to look at his own games before judging others deus ex was a 7/10 game at best.
    And man the game had a terribly bad ending.
    And the less I say about the boss battles the better.

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      again Bad Ending but i’m seeing no comment about Gamedesign and Gameplay your brain is f up with the Story

  • Stromboli

    Both games are massively overrated. Uncharted is not a console seller. The fanboys love it, but thats about it. I’d rather play a game like The Order or Until Dawn….games that aren’t so cheesy and lame. The gameplay is not as good in those games, but at least it doesn’t feel like I am playing a game designed so that a 12 year old can worship someone as a hero. Uncharted is hollow.

    • vishmarx

      “uncharted doesnt sell consoles because i think its cheesy and until dawn isnt the very definition of it. did you know i also happen to control the worldwide shipments of consoles?trust me. no one buys it for uncharted.and teenage cabin horror flicks are for mature philosophers because i like until dawn.”

  • Blahblahfish

    Well at explains the consistently mediocre scores for the series it originally tried to be a cover based Indiana Jones to rival gears than a sprawling story driven move rather than a game and finally gritty in its conclusion in U3 (like everything else on the market). Deus Ex, as a series has been around longer and has an identity for each of its games (suggestive by the many polarized responses). Too many games try in this market try and be too many things to accommodate every taste, a Sony market exec for example says make said game to rival its competitor rather than then have a true identity. That’s most likely what Naughty Dog is victim of having to create pop garbage on the Sony hype train (their name used to be synonymous with the Crash franchise if anyone remembers). I mean look at The Last of Us, blatant unabashed rip of the Walking Dead’s episodic adventure (another post apocalyptic wasteland with pseudo zombies). It really were the only reasons to ever get excited about the PS3 (look it up won the award for worst tech at its launch)that and the promise of FF7, anyone see a trend with Sony hopefully it makes it this time. It will interesting to see what this developer does once they exit Sony’s pocket they have great potential.

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      they will never understand, don’t waste your time

    • Jon

      I would actually disagree with you about the influence for the Last of Us.

      I just think it is a gasified version of “The Road”.

      Otherwise, I agree with your post.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        Naughty Dog didn’t copied the Road, the Road copied the Last of Us.
        ND are the innovator

        • Scott Russell

          I think you have a problem with the year 2006, and the year 2013. Please consult a helpful calendar.

  • kreator

    WOW, the pony defense force is out in full now!

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      i BET if Warren mentioned Quantum Break these fanboys would agree with Warren and viceversa

      never have a discussion with fanboys

    • Scott Russell

      If you search ‘horse’ in the Power Up Gaming search bar, then an article referring to some ponies will arrive.

  • Truth™

    Naughty Downgrade taking that criticism like the beta cucks they are on the beta cuck underpowered, trash tier 900PS4

    The talent left with Rubin and Gavin. All shills parade is a corpse

    • Tha-Truth

      Your mom took my beta cuck last night while she was upset that her peasant beta cuck PC was still too weak and pathetic to run Arkham Knight properly despite the game being out for 5 months.

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        Warren made some vag bleed lol

        • Tha-Truth

          The word is “Guiness” you pathetic, illiterate little troll. Oh my god, this is hilarious, we have a complete backwards gremlin who can’t even spell a simple 7 – letter word on here and he has the cheek to call other people stupid? You must really suffer from some severe form of brain damage, you truly are the walking definition of irony.

          If you’re going to call somebody the “most stupid guy in the planet” you’d better learn how to spell first you backwards twit. Otherwise you’re going to go down in history as “The guy who was even stupider than the most stupid guy in the planet”.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            you’re describing yourself lol

          • Tha-Truth

            Hmmm…a weak response after it’s already been proven what an uneducated, low – IQ moron you truly are.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            you’re good with grammar i give you that, but your brain damn
            you need a brain my friend
            you’re bringing fanboyism to a whole new level

          • Truth™

            Oh look, the degenerate with an IQ of a retarded baby cries when shown his stupidity

            You would probably forget to breathe if your mom didn’t have to remind you.

            Only low IQ losers bought the trash tier 900PS4 :^)

      • Truth™

        900P Piss weak poor

        Poor peasant defending his trash cut rate console that can’t reach modern gaming standards on its flagship title

  • Tha-Truth

    And how many GOTY awards has trash like Deus Ex won??? This idiot makes nothing but mediocre sci – fi garbage and all of a sudden he thinks he’s the authority on the entire industry? What a joke.

    This talentless hack doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as REAL developers like Naughty Dog. Just like the low – quality garbage Deus Ex games don’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Uncharted.

    • TwinspectreGaming101

      lol 5 years old confirmed

      • Tha-Truth

        By calling me a 5 year old you’re actually insulting yourself there, dipshit. Don’t you feel embarassed that a supposed “5 year – old” has better grammar than you? LOL, are all Deus Ex fanboys illiterate retards, or is it just you?

        • TwinspectreGaming101

          maybe because English isn’t my main language?
          this proves how Naughty Dogs supporter are

          you’re hypocrite by calling me R do you know that?

          i feel insulted to be part of the PlayStation community

          • Tha-Truth

            Your reply doesn’t make any sense, then again I suppose that’s to be expected given that i’m trying to hold a conversation with an illiterate douchebag who has clearly been deprived of any education.

            Given that you ACTUALLY write like a 5 year – old i’m a little scared to find out how old you are. Seriously, if you’re older than 5 then you have NO EXCUSES. It seems that even typing out a coherent sentence is beyond you.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            you’re a social reject seriously, what’s wrong with you?
            go to a doctor for a brain checkup you need it
            you’re talking about education? look what are you saying
            you’re insulting people because someone touched your beloved team?
            just like they gives a f about your existence

            again English isn’t my main language, but at least i’m respectful that’s what really matters

            you’re the typical obsessed guy that have a crush on an actress and when the actress announce she has a boyfriend then the obsessed guy will commit suicide, that’s what you’re

            my reply doesn’t make any sense because your brain isn’t working properly

            you’re over reacting for nothing

            Flash News in this world you can find other countries that speaks other language stop living in a tiny world

            we have Mexican, Italian, German, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, French, Corean, Indian, Portuguese not all country talk english

          • Tha-Truth

            Wow, you seriously are the most uneducated, rotten, spineless, pathetic little weasel in the history of the internet. I don’t know what kind of mental breakdown you were having when you typed that nonsense about the actress but would you mind keeping your down syndrome episodes out of the comments?

            I love how you described yourself as “respectful”. Because you clearly lack ANY sense of self – respect, if you had a sense of self – respect you wouldn’t allow your buttrage to expose you as an ignorant, inbred, backwards hypocrite.

            You spineless, pathetic, weak – minded little sub – human dreck of a human being. You actually have the gall to call other people stupid and tell other people they need to get their brain checked when YOU are the only one in this entire comment section who can’t spell or use proper grammar? Does the word “hypocrite” mean anything to you? Because it really should, right now it’s plastered across your forehead.

          • TwinspectreGaming101

            do you realise ENGLISH isn’t my MAIN LANGUAGE? heck i’m trying to say it in your own Language and you still don’t understand?
            let’s see the only one here insulting people is you does this makes you a respectful guy? if so, i should begin insulting you so i’m a respectful guy right?

          • Truth™

            900P

    • Truth™

      The best game in 2001 from over 100 publications. More than the two bit hacks Naughty Dog who have been trash since the real talent left

      Now you have on rails 900P disasterpieces with degenerate fanboys sucking them off for them because they never want to believe the talent disapeared a decade ago

      Same losers that would buy a low powered trash tier console and expect it to do 1080P 60FPS

      Warren Spector has more talent in his left finger than the naught downgrade cucks

      • TwinspectreGaming101

        i own a PS4 only and for me a game isn’t made by resolution :), but i agree with what you said about ND lol

  • TwinspectreGaming101

    it’s time to leave because i realise i’m surrounded by fanboys on both side
    we have the PlayStation fanboys that disagree with me
    and we have the Xbox fanboys agreeing with me
    Gaming is Fd up with all you corporate s
    i wasted too much time with you, i leave you a Reminder
    Corporation don’t give a f about you

    What Warren said applies to Quantum Break too

    now let’s see one group of fanboy will agree with me and another group of fanboy will disagree with me lol
    i don’t know if laugh or cry

    Fanboys need to wake up in order to see the real problem in games